Rhonda Patrick: Latest Insights on Alzheimer’s, Cancer, Exercise, Nutrition, Fasting
Attia hosts Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D. Rhonda discusses Alzheimer’s disease, including the vascular hypothesis and factors influencing disease risk. She addresses cancer risk, exercise’s impact, and the connection between alcohol consumption and cancer. Rhonda also shares her new focus on exercise, protein consumption, and her evolving perspective on fasting and time-restricted feeding.
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Rhonda Patrick on Alzheimer’s Disease and Dementia
- Rhonda Patrick has a personal interest in neurodegenerative diseases due to family history and genetic predisposition
- Alzheimer’s disease field has been focused on the amyloid hypothesis, but there have been many failed trials
- Three major types of dementia: Alzheimer’s disease, small vessel disease, and vascular dementia
- Common risk factors for Alzheimer’s disease: APOE4 allele and type 2 diabetes
- Vascular dysfunction, particularly in the blood-brain barrier, seems to be an early event common to all types of dementia, type 2 diabetes, and APOE4
Blood-Brain Barrier
- Provides a barrier to prevent unwanted substances from entering the brain
- Allows transport of important nutrients, oxygen, and glucose
- APOE4 and type 2 diabetes can lead to permeability of the blood-brain barrier
- Blood-brain barrier permeability can be measured in cerebral spinal fluid and plasma
- Occurs decades before the onset of cognitive impairment and is found in more than 50% of all dementias
- Blood-brain barrier is essential for removing toxic compounds from the brain through processes like the glymphatic system during sleep
Implications
- Understanding the underlying causes of dementia opens up new avenues for prevention and treatment
- Maintaining the integrity of the blood-brain barrier is crucial for brain health
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Blood-brain barrier permeability could be a key factor in the development of Alzheimer’s disease and other dementias
Blood Brain Barrier and Alzheimer’s Disease -
Blood brain barrier dysfunction linked to Alzheimer’s disease
- Type 2 diabetes doubles the risk of Alzheimer’s disease
- Disruption of blood brain barrier affects glucose transport and leads to hypometabolism
- Inflammation and loss of pericytes contribute to blood brain barrier dysfunction
Omega‑3 DHA Transport and Alzheimer’s Disease
- MFSD2A transporter important for omega‑3 DHA transport into the brain
- Disruption of this transporter leads to blood brain barrier breakdown and loss of omega‑3 in the brain
- Transporter decreases with age, rapidly in Alzheimer’s disease, and with APOE4 gene
- Genetic differences may affect individual response to omega‑3 supplementation
Preventative Measures for Alzheimer’s Disease
- Addressing type 2 diabetes through diet and lifestyle changes
- Ensuring adequate omega‑3 DHA intake, especially for those with genetic predispositions
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Understanding the role of inflammation and blood brain barrier integrity in Alzheimer’s disease development
Omega‑3 and Blood Brain Barrier Integrity -
Fatty Acid Research Institute investigates the role of omega‑3 in blood brain barrier integrity
- Omega‑3 intake is important for blood brain barrier health
- Low omega‑3 intake from fish identified as one of the top six preventable causes of death
- Omega-3s, specifically EPA and DHA, have anti-inflammatory properties and are important for brain health
DHA and EPA Importance
- DHA and EPA are both important for brain health
- DHA is specifically transported into the brain, while EPA can diffuse across the blood-brain barrier
- Both DHA and EPA have anti-inflammatory properties and help resolve inflammation
- Preliminary evidence suggests EPA supplementation may help with depression
Prevention vs. Treatment in Alzheimer’s Disease
- Prevention is a better strategy for Alzheimer’s disease than treatment
- Fixing leaks in the brain and addressing amyloid accumulation is challenging once Alzheimer’s disease has developed
- Prevention strategies include addressing type 2 diabetes, increasing omega‑3 intake, and maintaining overall health
- Type 2 diabetes is not inevitable and can be prevented or managed through lifestyle interventions
Type 2 Diabetes and Aging
- Type 2 diabetes accelerates the aging process and increases the risk of cardiovascular disease, cancer, and Alzheimer’s disease
- Unlike atherosclerosis and cancer, type 2 diabetes is not inevitable with age
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Preventing and managing type 2 diabetes can reduce the risk of other age-related diseases and improve overall health
Type 2 Diabetes and Aging -
Type 2 diabetes accelerates aging
- Morbid obesity often linked to type 2 diabetes and insulin resistance
- Treatment and prevention strategies available, but not always effectively deployed
Blood Pressure and Alzheimer’s Disease
- Hypertension and hyperlipidemia pose risks for cardiovascular disease and Alzheimer’s disease
- Blood pressure may act specifically through the blood-brain barrier
- Maintaining good blood pressure is important for reducing Alzheimer’s disease risk
- High blood pressure is associated with dementia risk, especially when developed before midlife
- Cumulative exposure to high blood pressure damages vasculature
- Exercise and sauna can improve blood pressure
Precision Nutrition and Genetics
- In the next decade, more information on precision nutrition may be available
- Genetic makeup can influence response to macronutrient and micronutrient intake
- Advances in technology and AI may lead to exponential growth in understanding gene-diet interactions
- Precision nutrition may help clear up conflicting data in nutrition studies
Challenges in Nutrition Studies
- Nutrition studies are often messy and difficult to design
- Confounding factors include baseline levels of nutrients and individual genetic differences
- Comparing nutrition studies to drug trials is difficult due to differences in starting points and outcomes
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Better-designed nutrition trials, such as those for vitamin D, are needed to determine the value of supplementation
Exercise and Brain Health -
Exercise has a greater impact on the reduction of risk of Alzheimer’s disease than any other intervention
- Other interventions include sleep, nutrition, and managing type 2 diabetes
- Mechanisms by which exercise benefits brain health:
- Intensity of exercise matters for neurobiological effects
- Lactate generation during high-intensity exercise
- Lactate is used by the brain as an energy source
- Lactate acts as a signaling molecule, increasing vascular endothelial growth factor (VEGF) and brain-derived neurotrophic factor (BDNF) at the blood-brain barrier
- VEGF helps grow new vessels and repair damaged ones
- BDNF is important for long-term potentiation, neuroplasticity, and memory retention
- Sheer force of blood flow during vigorous exercise increases BDNF production in endothelial cells lining blood vessels
- Exercise increases BDNF production in various organs and tissues, including the brain, muscle, and plasma
Lactate and Brain Health
- Lactate was once thought to be a harmful byproduct of exercise, but it is now known to have benefits
- Lactate is generated when mitochondria in muscle cells cannot produce enough energy (ATP) during high-intensity exercise
- Lactate is consumed by the brain and other organs as an energy source
- Lactate acts as a signaling molecule, increasing VEGF and BDNF at the blood-brain barrier
- VEGF helps grow new vessels and repair damaged ones
- BDNF is important for long-term potentiation, neuroplasticity, and memory retention
- Increasing lactate levels during exercise may have neurobiological benefits
Aerobic Capacity and Brain Health
- Aerobic capacity can be thought of as a pyramid with a wide base and a high peak
- The base represents the zone 2 threshold, or how much work can be done while keeping lactate at a low level (around 2 millimole)
- The peak represents the ability to perform high-intensity exercise and generate high lactate levels
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Training at both ends of the spectrum (low-intensity and high-intensity) is important for maximizing aerobic capacity and brain health benefits
VO2 Max and Lactate Training -
Pyramid analogy for training: build it wide and tall
- VO2 max sets: 3–8 minutes of all-out effort
- Lactate peaks provide benefits to the brain
- Athletes can clear lactate quickly
Tabata Training
- High-intensity interval training: 20 seconds on, 10 seconds off
- Generates lactate as a consequence of intensity
- Can be done in various ways to diversify training
- Hard to make performance gains if done all-out 5 days a week
Blood Flow Restriction
- Can be used to increase lactate levels during weightlifting
- Pooling lactate in legs during lower body workouts, then releasing it systemically
Training Zones
- Zone 2: moderate intensity
- Zone 3: higher intensity
- Zone 4: even higher intensity, held indefinitely for maximum wattage
- Zone 6: maximal effort, only sustainable for 10 seconds
- Functional Threshold Power (FTP): maximum power one can hold for 1 hour, used to set training zones in cycling and Peloton
Peloton and FTP Test
- Peloton ranks users based on average wattage or kilojoules
- FTP test on Peloton measures average wattage over 20 minutes, multiplied by 0.9
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Zones 1–7 are a function of power, not heart rate, and are based on FTP number
High-Intensity Interval Training (HIIT) and Sauna Use -
High-intensity interval training (HIIT) can increase mitochondrial biogenesis
- Forces adaptations on mitochondria to make more mitochondria
- Can be done in a short amount of time (10 minutes a day)
- Strength training can also provide benefits in a short amount of time (30 minutes a day, 4 times a week)
- Requires focus and intensity during the workout
- Sauna use can improve memory and increase heat shock proteins and brain-derived neurotrophic factor (BDNF)
- Temperature typically between 175–180°F
- Duration between 20–30 minutes
- Can be done after a workout or at a different time of day
- During pregnancy, sauna use may be avoided due to potential risks to the fetus
- Exercise during pregnancy can still provide benefits
- Hot tub use at night can help improve sleep quality
- Can be done in addition to sauna use during the day
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Exercise intensity may be linked to reduced dementia risk and improved cognitive function
Cognitive Health and Exercise -
Effort and time put into exercise correlates with cognitive health benefits
- Longitudinal study on women and Alzheimer’s risk
- Women with higher cardiorespiratory fitness had a significant reduction in Alzheimer’s risk
- Moderate fitness levels also showed a reduction in risk
- Questionnaire studies show a linear dose-response effect
- More effort and training led to greater benefits in reducing dementia risk
Gender Differences in Exercise Response
- Women have a higher risk of Alzheimer’s disease than men
- Possible differences in metabolic, hormonal, and immune system responses to exercise
- No clear data on gender differences in exercise response
Exercise and Cancer
- Elite athletes (Olympians) have a lower risk of dying from cancer
- 1.5 to 2 years of life saved from not dying from cancer
- 5 to 6 years of overall lifespan extension compared to the general population
- Cancer prevention studies focus on aerobic exercise
- Certain types of cancer more responsive to exercise, such as breast and colon cancer
- Lifetime risk of breast cancer for women is 1 in 8, colon cancer is 1 in 23 for women and 1 in 25 for men
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Strength training studies focus on cancer-related mortality, not prevention
Exercise and Cancer Prevention -
Breast and colon cancer show robust response to physical activity
- Cancer mortality reduced by 50%
- Cancer recurrence reduced by 50%
- More exercise needed for cancer prevention than cardiovascular benefits
- 300 minutes a week of moderate intensity exercise or 150 minutes of vigorous exercise recommended
- Exercise may have direct effects on cancer prevention
- Myokines decrease growth factors secreted by cancer cells
- Anti-inflammatory response from exercise
- Exercise improves insulin sensitivity and weight loss, which can reduce cancer risk
- Physical activity can reduce cancer metastasis and mortality
- Sheer force from blood flow during exercise can kill circulating tumor cells
- Exercise is the only panacea for reducing risk of cancer, Alzheimer’s disease, dementia, cardiovascular disease, and type 2 diabetes
Exercise, Obesity, and Satiety
- Exercise makes individuals more sensitive to satiety hormones
- Exercising individuals have a better sense of nutrient requirement
- Exercise provides a feedback loop for energy balance and nutrient intake
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Exercise is important for overall health and cancer prevention, despite challenges with obesity and hunger signals
Alcohol Consumption and Health Risks -
Moderate drinking in women can increase the risk of breast cancer
- Some studies suggest a lifetime risk of 1 in 6
- Obesity and physical inactivity also impact breast cancer risk
- No amount of alcohol is considered healthy
- Low doses (4–7 drinks per week) may have immeasurable harm
- Alcohol consumption can negatively affect sleep
- Poor sleep is linked to increased Alzheimer’s and cardiovascular disease risk
- APOE4 carriers may be more susceptible to the harmful effects of alcohol
- They may also be more affected by poor sleep
Exercise and Sleep
- Wearing a continuous glucose monitor (CGM) can show the effects of sleep interruption on glucose levels
- Exercise can help counteract these effects
- Poor sleep is associated with higher all-cause mortality, but only in people who are not physically active
- Exercise can “forgive” many health sins
Protein Intake and Muscle Mass
- Competing ideas in science:
- Lower protein intake is associated with a longer life (mostly from animal studies)
- Higher protein intake is necessary for maintaining muscle mass and overall health
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Further research is needed to reconcile these ideas and determine optimal protein intake for health and longevity
Reconciling Protein Intake and Longevity -
Conflicting literature on protein intake and longevity
- Lower protein intake associated with more frailty and shorter life
- Higher protein intake potentially linked to cancer risk
- Struggle to find the minimum effective dose of protein
- Difficult to measure outside of a lab setting
Animal Studies and Protein Intake
- Animal studies show protein restriction can lead to longer life and reduced cancer risk
- However, these studies may not translate well to humans
- Animals in sterile environments not exposed to same stimuli as humans
- Mice die from different diseases than humans
- Importance of muscle mass and strength in humans
- Exercise and protein intake crucial for maintaining muscle mass and strength
- Sarcopenia (loss of muscle mass) has devastating effects on aging population
- Increasing protein intake and strength training necessary to avoid sarcopenia
Questionable Cancer Risk from Higher Protein Intake
- No clear data showing increased cancer risk from higher protein intake in humans
- Need to compare potential cancer risk to the offset of sarcopenia
- Sarcopenia has a clear negative impact on mortality
- Confusion may stem from C. elegans studies
- Knocking out certain genes doubled lifespan, suggesting low protein intake is key to longevity
- However, this may not translate well to humans
IGF‑1 and Protein Intake
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IGF‑1 (insulin-like growth factor 1) is a growth factor
- In the context of a tumor, can allow tumor cells to override cell death mechanisms
- However, it is unclear if higher protein intake significantly increases cancer risk in humans
- More research needed to understand the relationship between protein intake, IGF‑1, and cancer risk
IGF‑1 and Protein Intake
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IGF‑1 (Insulin-like Growth Factor 1) is important for muscle repair, neurogenesis, and brain health
- Exercise increases IGF‑1 levels in the brain and muscles
- Controversy exists over whether high IGF‑1 levels contribute to tumor growth
- Protein intake and IGF‑1 levels may be related, but the relationship is not well understood
Protein Intake and Aging
- Recommended daily allowance (RDA) for protein may be outdated and too low
- Older adults may need more protein due to anabolic resistance (decreased muscle protein synthesis)
- Aim for 1 gram of protein per pound of body weight (2.2 grams per kilo)
- Protein quality and amino acid content are important factors to consider
Protein Intake Strategies
- Incorporate protein into meals and snacks
- Use protein shakes and supplements to reach protein goals
- Focus on high-quality protein sources, such as whey protein and venison jerky sticks
- Protein intake should be a priority in dietary planning, especially for older adults and those engaging in strength training
Strength Training and Bone Mineral Density
- Strength training is important for maintaining muscle mass and bone mineral density
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Protein intake and strength training should be prioritized for overall health and longevity
Protein Intake and Weight Loss -
Overweight or obese individuals may not need to focus as much on protein intake
- They can focus on caloric restriction and training to offset lean mass loss
- Protein target of 2 grams per pound for satiating benefits and thermogenic effect
- Time-restricted eating can lead to skipping meals and reduced protein intake
- Can result in muscle loss, especially without resistance training
Fasting and Time Restricted Eating
- Time restricted feeding can be effective for weight loss with a small enough feeding window
- Problem: difficult to get enough protein in a single meal
- Solution: have protein snacks outside of the feeding window
- Fasting can be at odds with adequate maintenance of muscle
- As people age, muscle maintenance becomes a higher priority
Circadian Rhythm and Eating
- Benefits to eating within circadian rhythm
- Eating late at night can inhibit insulin secretion and raise glucose levels
- Gut rest and digestion rest are important for DNA repair mechanisms and autophagy
- Autophagy occurs when not digesting food
- Exercise can induce autophagy and provide benefits
- Unclear how long one would need to fast to achieve similar benefits
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Difficult to extrapolate from mice studies on fasting and autophagy
- Cumulative effect of eating within circadian window may have a positive impact on metabolism
Circadian Component and Eating Habits
- Cumulative effect of eating within circadian window may have a positive impact on metabolism
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Most people in the United States eat within a 15-hour window
- Unclear if this is harmful or not, especially for those who exercise
- Circadian component may play a role in the impact of eating habits
- Nighttime food restriction can improve sleep quality
Changing Perspectives and Following Data
- As a scientist, it’s important to reassess beliefs and practices as new data emerges
- Supplements taken and perspectives on health can change over time
- Continual reassessment is necessary due to the constant development of new tools and understanding
Rhonda Patrick’s Content and Platforms
- Found My Fitness podcast
- In-depth articles on Foundmyfitness.com
- Short, to-the-point content on Instagram and Twitter (@foundmyfitness)
Lactate and Beta-Hydroxybutyrate
- Lactate and beta-hydroxybutyrate are both signaling molecules
- Both have effects on traumatic brain injury (TBI) and Alzheimer’s disease
- More research is needed to understand the neurobiological effects of lactate and beta-hydroxybutyrate
- Exercise can produce both lactate and beta-hydroxybutyrate
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