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Last Updated: 25.05.23
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Siddhartha Mukherjee: History of the Cell, Cell Therapy, Gene Therapy
Attia hosts Siddhartha Mukherjee, an oncologist and Pulitzer Prize-winning author, discussing his book, The Song of the Cell. Siddhartha covers cell discovery, medical impact, evolution to multicellularity, cell-based therapies, gene therapy including CRISPR, ethical concerns, medical science challenges, the human brain, learning styles, writing process, and mental health.
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The Life Series Trilogy
- The Emperor of All Maladies
- The Gene
- The Song of the Cell
The Gene
- Smallest unit of information
- Encoded in DNA, but lifeless without the cell
- The cell is the musician that brings the gene to life
The Song of the Cell
- Focuses on the cell and its importance in life
- Cells bring genes to life and are responsible for all functions and illnesses
History of Cell Biology
- Microscope invented in the 17th century
- Gradual blossoming of the science
- Rudolph Vercou made audacious statements in the late 19th century
- Every function is a consequence of cellular physiology
- Every illness is the consequence of some cell behaving incorrectly
Microscopes and Visualization
- Lewin Hooke’s single lens microscope
- The lens is smaller than the size of an eyeball
- The microscope allowed for the visualization of microscopic forms
Transition from Medicine 1.0 to 2.0
- Introduction of the scientific method in the late 15th century
- Germ theory and the understanding of microbial agents
- Reduction in human mortality due to the reduction of death from infectious diseases
The Importance of Antibiotics
- Life-saving effect on procedures such as childbirth and surgery
- Microbes were imagined in the abstract before they were seen
Semmelweis and the Discovery of Microbes
- Junior obstetrician in Vienna
- Discovered that doctors were transmitting microbes
- Importance of listening to patients
Semmelweis and Germ Theory
- Semmelweis, a junior obstetrician in Vienna, noticed high maternal mortality rates in one ward compared to another
- Ward 1: run by doctors who performed autopsies and delivered babies without washing hands
- Ward 2: run by nurses who did not perform autopsies, had lower mortality rates
- Semmelweis hypothesized that doctors were transferring a “material substance” from dead bodies to the women they were examining
- Insisted doctors wash their hands with a diluted bleach solution, which led to a decrease in mortality rates
- Semmelweis essentially founded germ theory, although he did not have a microscope to confirm his findings
Evolutionary Drive for Multicellular Life
- Single-celled organisms are incredibly successful, living in a wide range of environments
- Multicellular organisms evolved from single-celled organisms multiple times independently
- Possible reasons for multicellularity:
- Predation: harder for predators to eat multicellular organisms
- Access to food and resources
- Multicellular organisms still make up a small portion of life compared to single-celled organisms
Ratcliff’s Experiment with Yeast
- William Ratcliff conducted an experiment to study the transition from single-celled to multicellular organisms
- Cultured yeast and collected sediment, allowing it to grow in multiple cycles
- After 30–40 cycles, yeast evolved into multicellular, snowflake-like forms
- These new multicellular yeast continued to propagate and developed specialized functions
- Ratcliff has conducted similar experiments with other organisms, such as algae
Evolution and Dinosaurs
- Dinosaurs were large multicellular organisms that existed millions of years ago
- It is unclear whether their size was an evolutionary advantage or a correction in the evolutionary process
- Factors such as volcanic eruptions and changes in food availability may have contributed to their extinction, allowing for the rise of other life forms
Jesse Gelsinger and Gene Therapy
- Jesse Gelsinger had a genetic disease related to the processing of ammonia in the body
- The idea was to create a virus containing the corrected version of the gene and infuse it into Jesse’s body
- The virus would infect his liver cells, insert the corrected gene, and reverse his disease
- However, Jesse’s immune system mounted a vigorous response against the virus, leading to his death
- The field of gene therapy was frozen for almost a decade as researchers tried to understand the cause and how to prevent it in others
Safer Approaches to Gene Therapy
- Safe harbors in the body: places where the immune system doesn’t easily reach
- Examples include the retina and testes
- New drugs can dampen the immune response, preventing a severe reaction to gene therapy
- Hiding the virus: researchers can engineer the virus to be less recognizable to the immune system, reducing the risk of a severe immune response
Gene Therapy and Immune Response
- Strategies to prevent hyperactive immune response:
- Use a novel virus that won’t raise a brisk immune response
- Give gene therapy in small doses (hyperfractionation)
- CAR T‑cells: a special example of gene therapy
- Extract T‑cells from a cancer patient
- Use gene therapy to weaponize T‑cells to attack cancer cells
- Reinject weaponized T‑cells into the patient
- Successful in blood cancers like lymphoma, leukemia, and myeloma
- Not as successful in solid tumors
Reducing the Cost of CAR T‑cell Therapy
- Reasons for high cost in the United States:
- High failure rate of drugs, pharmaceutical companies recoup R&D costs
- CAR T‑cells are intrinsically expensive to make
- Quality control and sterile environment required for production
- Cost reduction strategies in India:
- Cheaper virus production
- Reduced patent burden
- Changed machinery and cell harvesting methods
- Lower hospital treatment and therapy costs
Gene Therapy for Sickle Cell Anemia
- Three approaches to gene therapy for sickle cell anemia:
- Express the corrected version of the Betaglobin gene
- Use gene editing technology (e.g., CRISPR) to change the gene back to its normal form
- Reactivate fetal hemoglobin in adults to correct the hemoglobin defect
- All three approaches are in trials and have shown various measures of success
CRISPR and Genetic Revolution
- CRISPR allows for precise changes in the human genome
- Discovered by Jennifer Doudna, Emmanuelle Charpentier, Feng Zhang, George Church, and others
- Derived from a bacterial system evolved millions of years ago
- Can delete or change specific words in the “library” of the human genome
- Has the potential to revolutionize gene therapy and genetic editing
Gene Editing and Ethical Considerations
- CRISPR technology allows for precise gene editing
- Can change specific genes to their normal or wild type versions
- Can be done with embryonic cells, stem cells, bone marrow cells, and T cells
- Distinction between disease and desire
- Disease is linked to human suffering
- Desire is the aspiration to ameliorate suffering, even when there’s no suffering involved
- Controversial case of Chinese scientist He Jiankui
- Edited embryos to make them HIV-resistant, even though they had no risk of HIV infection
- Raised ethical concerns about informed consent and the necessity of the procedure
- Drawing the line between ethical and unethical gene editing
- Huntington’s disease: high penetrance, devastating effects, altering embryos could be seen as ethical
- APOE4 gene: risk factor for Alzheimer’s disease, but not as penetrant as Huntington’s, raises questions about where to draw the line
- Balancing the potential benefits of gene editing with ethical considerations and potential risks
Biomedical Community on Genetic Editing
- Genetic editing raises ethical questions on disease vs. desire
- Enhancing intelligence or physical traits falls under desire
- Mental health is a complex area for genetic editing
- Autism and schizophrenia have genetic components
- Simplifying these conditions could have unintended consequences
Genes and Mental Health
- Two types of genes related to mental health:
- Shove genes: strongly push towards a specific outcome (e.g., Marfan syndrome)
- Nudge genes: small influences that accumulate (e.g., height)
- Most mental illnesses are influenced by nudge genes
- Difficult to change hundreds or thousands of genes at once
Complexity of the Brain
- Two types of problems in science:
- Eye in the sandstorm: a paradigm shift is needed to understand a phenomenon
- Sand in the eye: a single fact doesn’t fit the current understanding
- Neuronal transmission is a sand in the eye problem
- Neurons have spaces between them called synapses
- Electrical conduction changes to chemical signals between neurons
- Allows for weighting and modulation of signals
- Analogous to neural networks in computing
Neural Networks and Learning
- Neural networks assign weights to different layers of communication
- Allows for discrimination between different inputs (e.g., dogs vs. cats)
- Brain’s electrical-chemical-electrical signal conversion allows for learning and processing
- If the brain were only electrical signals, it would be a “box of wires” without learning capabilities
- Understanding of this process is still developing in the field of science
Digital vs. Analog Processes in the Brain
- Digital: completely on or completely off, no modulation
- Analog: modulation of sound, crescendo and decrescendo, more complex and dynamic
- Evolution figured out the importance of modulation in the brain
- Music analogy: tempo, pace, loudness, softness, rhythm
- Produces a mature output of the score, the “music of the cell” and the brain
Learning in the Lab vs. Textbook Knowledge
- Textbook knowledge lays the groundwork and foundation, but has limitations
- Learning in the lab involves:
- Troubleshooting and problem-solving
- Recognizing failure and learning from it
- Gaining experience and knowledge from peers
- Practical application of knowledge in clinical trials and experiments
- Lab learning is essential for understanding the complexities of medicine and biology
Writing Process and Style
- Writing is a way to think and work through thoughts
- Use of analogies, metaphors, and various sources (history, mythology, philosophy, conversations, interviews) to create a unique and personal style
- Breaking down barriers between different genres of writing (memoir, case histories, deep history, journalistic writing)
- Goal is to show readers the author’s world and experiences, both the highs and lows
End of Life and Falls
- Connection between falls in older individuals and the end of life
- Author’s father and Virtuo both died as a result of falls and subsequent complications
- Falls are the leading cause of accidental death in older individuals
- Importance of considering and addressing this issue in medicine and healthcare
Mortality and Cellular Processes
- Mortality in older individuals can result from falls and broken bones
- Example: A person over 65 who falls and breaks their femur has a 10–30% mortality rate at 12 months
- Cellular processes play a role in these situations
- Osteoclasts, osteoblasts, and the matrix of the hip contribute to organ failure
- The body is a “citizenship” where different parts depend on each other
- Example: If the Department of Transportation shuts down, it can lead to a chain reaction of negative consequences
Depression and Mental Disorders
- Depression is often viewed differently from other medical conditions
- People may associate victimhood with mental disorders
- This can lead to blaming the victim for their condition
- The brain is an organ with physiology, like other organs in the body
- Depression can be seen as a dysfunction of mood-regulating neurons in the brain
- This is similar to how type 1 diabetes is a dysfunction of insulin-regulating cells in the pancreas
- The goal is to challenge the idea of victimhood and responsibility in mental disorders
Diagnosing and Treating Mental Disorders
- Psychiatry currently lacks biomarkers and radiographic findings for diagnosis
- This makes diagnosing mental disorders more challenging than diagnosing physical conditions
- However, clinical decisions can still be made based on observation and experience
- When a person is clinically depressed, there is a clear dysfunction in their neural circuits that regulate mood
- There is potential for new therapies and treatments for mental disorders
- These could include alterations in diet, medicines, and electrical stimulation
Future Discussions
- Topics for future discussions include the immune system, epigenetics, cellular reprogramming, and the culture of antiscience
- These topics require more in-depth exploration and discussion
- Focuses on the cell and its importance in life
- Cells bring genes to life and are responsible for all functions and illnesses
History of Cell Biology
- Microscope invented in the 17th century
- Gradual blossoming of the science
- Rudolph Vercou made audacious statements in the late 19th century
- Every function is a consequence of cellular physiology
- Every illness is the consequence of some cell behaving incorrectly
Microscopes and Visualization
- Lewin Hooke’s single lens microscope
- The lens is smaller than the size of an eyeball
- The microscope allowed for the visualization of microscopic forms
Transition from Medicine 1.0 to 2.0
- Introduction of the scientific method in the late 15th century
- Germ theory and the understanding of microbial agents
- Reduction in human mortality due to the reduction of death from infectious diseases
The Importance of Antibiotics
- Life-saving effect on procedures such as childbirth and surgery
- Microbes were imagined in the abstract before they were seen
Semmelweis and the Discovery of Microbes
- Junior obstetrician in Vienna
- Discovered that doctors were transmitting microbes
- Importance of listening to patients
Semmelweis and Germ Theory
- Semmelweis, a junior obstetrician in Vienna, noticed high maternal mortality rates in one ward compared to another
- Ward 1: run by doctors who performed autopsies and delivered babies without washing hands
- Ward 2: run by nurses who did not perform autopsies, had lower mortality rates
- Semmelweis hypothesized that doctors were transferring a “material substance” from dead bodies to the women they were examining
- Insisted doctors wash their hands with a diluted bleach solution, which led to a decrease in mortality rates
- Semmelweis essentially founded germ theory, although he did not have a microscope to confirm his findings
Evolutionary Drive for Multicellular Life
- Single-celled organisms are incredibly successful, living in a wide range of environments
- Multicellular organisms evolved from single-celled organisms multiple times independently
- Possible reasons for multicellularity:
- Predation: harder for predators to eat multicellular organisms
- Access to food and resources
- Multicellular organisms still make up a small portion of life compared to single-celled organisms
Ratcliff’s Experiment with Yeast
- William Ratcliff conducted an experiment to study the transition from single-celled to multicellular organisms
- Cultured yeast and collected sediment, allowing it to grow in multiple cycles
- After 30–40 cycles, yeast evolved into multicellular, snowflake-like forms
- These new multicellular yeast continued to propagate and developed specialized functions
- Ratcliff has conducted similar experiments with other organisms, such as algae
Evolution and Dinosaurs
- Dinosaurs were large multicellular organisms that existed millions of years ago
- It is unclear whether their size was an evolutionary advantage or a correction in the evolutionary process
- Factors such as volcanic eruptions and changes in food availability may have contributed to their extinction, allowing for the rise of other life forms
Jesse Gelsinger and Gene Therapy
- Jesse Gelsinger had a genetic disease related to the processing of ammonia in the body
- The idea was to create a virus containing the corrected version of the gene and infuse it into Jesse’s body
- The virus would infect his liver cells, insert the corrected gene, and reverse his disease
- However, Jesse’s immune system mounted a vigorous response against the virus, leading to his death
- The field of gene therapy was frozen for almost a decade as researchers tried to understand the cause and how to prevent it in others
Safer Approaches to Gene Therapy
- Safe harbors in the body: places where the immune system doesn’t easily reach
- Examples include the retina and testes
- New drugs can dampen the immune response, preventing a severe reaction to gene therapy
- Hiding the virus: researchers can engineer the virus to be less recognizable to the immune system, reducing the risk of a severe immune response
Gene Therapy and Immune Response
- Strategies to prevent hyperactive immune response:
- Use a novel virus that won’t raise a brisk immune response
- Give gene therapy in small doses (hyperfractionation)
- CAR T‑cells: a special example of gene therapy
- Extract T‑cells from a cancer patient
- Use gene therapy to weaponize T‑cells to attack cancer cells
- Reinject weaponized T‑cells into the patient
- Successful in blood cancers like lymphoma, leukemia, and myeloma
- Not as successful in solid tumors
Reducing the Cost of CAR T‑cell Therapy
- Reasons for high cost in the United States:
- High failure rate of drugs, pharmaceutical companies recoup R&D costs
- CAR T‑cells are intrinsically expensive to make
- Quality control and sterile environment required for production
- Cost reduction strategies in India:
- Cheaper virus production
- Reduced patent burden
- Changed machinery and cell harvesting methods
- Lower hospital treatment and therapy costs
Gene Therapy for Sickle Cell Anemia
- Three approaches to gene therapy for sickle cell anemia:
- Express the corrected version of the Betaglobin gene
- Use gene editing technology (e.g., CRISPR) to change the gene back to its normal form
- Reactivate fetal hemoglobin in adults to correct the hemoglobin defect
- All three approaches are in trials and have shown various measures of success
CRISPR and Genetic Revolution
- CRISPR allows for precise changes in the human genome
- Discovered by Jennifer Doudna, Emmanuelle Charpentier, Feng Zhang, George Church, and others
- Derived from a bacterial system evolved millions of years ago
- Can delete or change specific words in the “library” of the human genome
- Has the potential to revolutionize gene therapy and genetic editing
Gene Editing and Ethical Considerations
- CRISPR technology allows for precise gene editing
- Can change specific genes to their normal or wild type versions
- Can be done with embryonic cells, stem cells, bone marrow cells, and T cells
- Distinction between disease and desire
- Disease is linked to human suffering
- Desire is the aspiration to ameliorate suffering, even when there’s no suffering involved
- Controversial case of Chinese scientist He Jiankui
- Edited embryos to make them HIV-resistant, even though they had no risk of HIV infection
- Raised ethical concerns about informed consent and the necessity of the procedure
- Drawing the line between ethical and unethical gene editing
- Huntington’s disease: high penetrance, devastating effects, altering embryos could be seen as ethical
- APOE4 gene: risk factor for Alzheimer’s disease, but not as penetrant as Huntington’s, raises questions about where to draw the line
- Balancing the potential benefits of gene editing with ethical considerations and potential risks
Biomedical Community on Genetic Editing
- Genetic editing raises ethical questions on disease vs. desire
- Enhancing intelligence or physical traits falls under desire
- Mental health is a complex area for genetic editing
- Autism and schizophrenia have genetic components
- Simplifying these conditions could have unintended consequences
Genes and Mental Health
- Two types of genes related to mental health:
- Shove genes: strongly push towards a specific outcome (e.g., Marfan syndrome)
- Nudge genes: small influences that accumulate (e.g., height)
- Most mental illnesses are influenced by nudge genes
- Difficult to change hundreds or thousands of genes at once
Complexity of the Brain
- Two types of problems in science:
- Eye in the sandstorm: a paradigm shift is needed to understand a phenomenon
- Sand in the eye: a single fact doesn’t fit the current understanding
- Neuronal transmission is a sand in the eye problem
- Neurons have spaces between them called synapses
- Electrical conduction changes to chemical signals between neurons
- Allows for weighting and modulation of signals
- Analogous to neural networks in computing
Neural Networks and Learning
- Neural networks assign weights to different layers of communication
- Allows for discrimination between different inputs (e.g., dogs vs. cats)
- Brain’s electrical-chemical-electrical signal conversion allows for learning and processing
- If the brain were only electrical signals, it would be a “box of wires” without learning capabilities
- Understanding of this process is still developing in the field of science
Digital vs. Analog Processes in the Brain
- Digital: completely on or completely off, no modulation
- Analog: modulation of sound, crescendo and decrescendo, more complex and dynamic
- Evolution figured out the importance of modulation in the brain
- Music analogy: tempo, pace, loudness, softness, rhythm
- Produces a mature output of the score, the “music of the cell” and the brain
Learning in the Lab vs. Textbook Knowledge
- Textbook knowledge lays the groundwork and foundation, but has limitations
- Learning in the lab involves:
- Troubleshooting and problem-solving
- Recognizing failure and learning from it
- Gaining experience and knowledge from peers
- Practical application of knowledge in clinical trials and experiments
- Lab learning is essential for understanding the complexities of medicine and biology
Writing Process and Style
- Writing is a way to think and work through thoughts
- Use of analogies, metaphors, and various sources (history, mythology, philosophy, conversations, interviews) to create a unique and personal style
- Breaking down barriers between different genres of writing (memoir, case histories, deep history, journalistic writing)
- Goal is to show readers the author’s world and experiences, both the highs and lows
End of Life and Falls
- Connection between falls in older individuals and the end of life
- Author’s father and Virtuo both died as a result of falls and subsequent complications
- Falls are the leading cause of accidental death in older individuals
- Importance of considering and addressing this issue in medicine and healthcare
Mortality and Cellular Processes
- Mortality in older individuals can result from falls and broken bones
- Example: A person over 65 who falls and breaks their femur has a 10–30% mortality rate at 12 months
- Cellular processes play a role in these situations
- Osteoclasts, osteoblasts, and the matrix of the hip contribute to organ failure
- The body is a “citizenship” where different parts depend on each other
- Example: If the Department of Transportation shuts down, it can lead to a chain reaction of negative consequences
Depression and Mental Disorders
- Depression is often viewed differently from other medical conditions
- People may associate victimhood with mental disorders
- This can lead to blaming the victim for their condition
- The brain is an organ with physiology, like other organs in the body
- Depression can be seen as a dysfunction of mood-regulating neurons in the brain
- This is similar to how type 1 diabetes is a dysfunction of insulin-regulating cells in the pancreas
- The goal is to challenge the idea of victimhood and responsibility in mental disorders
Diagnosing and Treating Mental Disorders
- Psychiatry currently lacks biomarkers and radiographic findings for diagnosis
- This makes diagnosing mental disorders more challenging than diagnosing physical conditions
- However, clinical decisions can still be made based on observation and experience
- When a person is clinically depressed, there is a clear dysfunction in their neural circuits that regulate mood
- There is potential for new therapies and treatments for mental disorders
- These could include alterations in diet, medicines, and electrical stimulation
Future Discussions
- Topics for future discussions include the immune system, epigenetics, cellular reprogramming, and the culture of antiscience
- These topics require more in-depth exploration and discussion
- Every function is a consequence of cellular physiology
- Every illness is the consequence of some cell behaving incorrectly
- Lewin Hooke’s single lens microscope
- The lens is smaller than the size of an eyeball
- The microscope allowed for the visualization of microscopic forms
Transition from Medicine 1.0 to 2.0
- Introduction of the scientific method in the late 15th century
- Germ theory and the understanding of microbial agents
- Reduction in human mortality due to the reduction of death from infectious diseases
The Importance of Antibiotics
- Life-saving effect on procedures such as childbirth and surgery
- Microbes were imagined in the abstract before they were seen
Semmelweis and the Discovery of Microbes
- Junior obstetrician in Vienna
- Discovered that doctors were transmitting microbes
- Importance of listening to patients
Semmelweis and Germ Theory
- Semmelweis, a junior obstetrician in Vienna, noticed high maternal mortality rates in one ward compared to another
- Ward 1: run by doctors who performed autopsies and delivered babies without washing hands
- Ward 2: run by nurses who did not perform autopsies, had lower mortality rates
- Semmelweis hypothesized that doctors were transferring a “material substance” from dead bodies to the women they were examining
- Insisted doctors wash their hands with a diluted bleach solution, which led to a decrease in mortality rates
- Semmelweis essentially founded germ theory, although he did not have a microscope to confirm his findings
Evolutionary Drive for Multicellular Life
- Single-celled organisms are incredibly successful, living in a wide range of environments
- Multicellular organisms evolved from single-celled organisms multiple times independently
- Possible reasons for multicellularity:
- Predation: harder for predators to eat multicellular organisms
- Access to food and resources
- Multicellular organisms still make up a small portion of life compared to single-celled organisms
Ratcliff’s Experiment with Yeast
- William Ratcliff conducted an experiment to study the transition from single-celled to multicellular organisms
- Cultured yeast and collected sediment, allowing it to grow in multiple cycles
- After 30–40 cycles, yeast evolved into multicellular, snowflake-like forms
- These new multicellular yeast continued to propagate and developed specialized functions
- Ratcliff has conducted similar experiments with other organisms, such as algae
Evolution and Dinosaurs
- Dinosaurs were large multicellular organisms that existed millions of years ago
- It is unclear whether their size was an evolutionary advantage or a correction in the evolutionary process
- Factors such as volcanic eruptions and changes in food availability may have contributed to their extinction, allowing for the rise of other life forms
Jesse Gelsinger and Gene Therapy
- Jesse Gelsinger had a genetic disease related to the processing of ammonia in the body
- The idea was to create a virus containing the corrected version of the gene and infuse it into Jesse’s body
- The virus would infect his liver cells, insert the corrected gene, and reverse his disease
- However, Jesse’s immune system mounted a vigorous response against the virus, leading to his death
- The field of gene therapy was frozen for almost a decade as researchers tried to understand the cause and how to prevent it in others
Safer Approaches to Gene Therapy
- Safe harbors in the body: places where the immune system doesn’t easily reach
- Examples include the retina and testes
- New drugs can dampen the immune response, preventing a severe reaction to gene therapy
- Hiding the virus: researchers can engineer the virus to be less recognizable to the immune system, reducing the risk of a severe immune response
Gene Therapy and Immune Response
- Strategies to prevent hyperactive immune response:
- Use a novel virus that won’t raise a brisk immune response
- Give gene therapy in small doses (hyperfractionation)
- CAR T‑cells: a special example of gene therapy
- Extract T‑cells from a cancer patient
- Use gene therapy to weaponize T‑cells to attack cancer cells
- Reinject weaponized T‑cells into the patient
- Successful in blood cancers like lymphoma, leukemia, and myeloma
- Not as successful in solid tumors
Reducing the Cost of CAR T‑cell Therapy
- Reasons for high cost in the United States:
- High failure rate of drugs, pharmaceutical companies recoup R&D costs
- CAR T‑cells are intrinsically expensive to make
- Quality control and sterile environment required for production
- Cost reduction strategies in India:
- Cheaper virus production
- Reduced patent burden
- Changed machinery and cell harvesting methods
- Lower hospital treatment and therapy costs
Gene Therapy for Sickle Cell Anemia
- Three approaches to gene therapy for sickle cell anemia:
- Express the corrected version of the Betaglobin gene
- Use gene editing technology (e.g., CRISPR) to change the gene back to its normal form
- Reactivate fetal hemoglobin in adults to correct the hemoglobin defect
- All three approaches are in trials and have shown various measures of success
CRISPR and Genetic Revolution
- CRISPR allows for precise changes in the human genome
- Discovered by Jennifer Doudna, Emmanuelle Charpentier, Feng Zhang, George Church, and others
- Derived from a bacterial system evolved millions of years ago
- Can delete or change specific words in the “library” of the human genome
- Has the potential to revolutionize gene therapy and genetic editing
Gene Editing and Ethical Considerations
- CRISPR technology allows for precise gene editing
- Can change specific genes to their normal or wild type versions
- Can be done with embryonic cells, stem cells, bone marrow cells, and T cells
- Distinction between disease and desire
- Disease is linked to human suffering
- Desire is the aspiration to ameliorate suffering, even when there’s no suffering involved
- Controversial case of Chinese scientist He Jiankui
- Edited embryos to make them HIV-resistant, even though they had no risk of HIV infection
- Raised ethical concerns about informed consent and the necessity of the procedure
- Drawing the line between ethical and unethical gene editing
- Huntington’s disease: high penetrance, devastating effects, altering embryos could be seen as ethical
- APOE4 gene: risk factor for Alzheimer’s disease, but not as penetrant as Huntington’s, raises questions about where to draw the line
- Balancing the potential benefits of gene editing with ethical considerations and potential risks
Biomedical Community on Genetic Editing
- Genetic editing raises ethical questions on disease vs. desire
- Enhancing intelligence or physical traits falls under desire
- Mental health is a complex area for genetic editing
- Autism and schizophrenia have genetic components
- Simplifying these conditions could have unintended consequences
Genes and Mental Health
- Two types of genes related to mental health:
- Shove genes: strongly push towards a specific outcome (e.g., Marfan syndrome)
- Nudge genes: small influences that accumulate (e.g., height)
- Most mental illnesses are influenced by nudge genes
- Difficult to change hundreds or thousands of genes at once
Complexity of the Brain
- Two types of problems in science:
- Eye in the sandstorm: a paradigm shift is needed to understand a phenomenon
- Sand in the eye: a single fact doesn’t fit the current understanding
- Neuronal transmission is a sand in the eye problem
- Neurons have spaces between them called synapses
- Electrical conduction changes to chemical signals between neurons
- Allows for weighting and modulation of signals
- Analogous to neural networks in computing
Neural Networks and Learning
- Neural networks assign weights to different layers of communication
- Allows for discrimination between different inputs (e.g., dogs vs. cats)
- Brain’s electrical-chemical-electrical signal conversion allows for learning and processing
- If the brain were only electrical signals, it would be a “box of wires” without learning capabilities
- Understanding of this process is still developing in the field of science
Digital vs. Analog Processes in the Brain
- Digital: completely on or completely off, no modulation
- Analog: modulation of sound, crescendo and decrescendo, more complex and dynamic
- Evolution figured out the importance of modulation in the brain
- Music analogy: tempo, pace, loudness, softness, rhythm
- Produces a mature output of the score, the “music of the cell” and the brain
Learning in the Lab vs. Textbook Knowledge
- Textbook knowledge lays the groundwork and foundation, but has limitations
- Learning in the lab involves:
- Troubleshooting and problem-solving
- Recognizing failure and learning from it
- Gaining experience and knowledge from peers
- Practical application of knowledge in clinical trials and experiments
- Lab learning is essential for understanding the complexities of medicine and biology
Writing Process and Style
- Writing is a way to think and work through thoughts
- Use of analogies, metaphors, and various sources (history, mythology, philosophy, conversations, interviews) to create a unique and personal style
- Breaking down barriers between different genres of writing (memoir, case histories, deep history, journalistic writing)
- Goal is to show readers the author’s world and experiences, both the highs and lows
End of Life and Falls
- Connection between falls in older individuals and the end of life
- Author’s father and Virtuo both died as a result of falls and subsequent complications
- Falls are the leading cause of accidental death in older individuals
- Importance of considering and addressing this issue in medicine and healthcare
Mortality and Cellular Processes
- Mortality in older individuals can result from falls and broken bones
- Example: A person over 65 who falls and breaks their femur has a 10–30% mortality rate at 12 months
- Cellular processes play a role in these situations
- Osteoclasts, osteoblasts, and the matrix of the hip contribute to organ failure
- The body is a “citizenship” where different parts depend on each other
- Example: If the Department of Transportation shuts down, it can lead to a chain reaction of negative consequences
Depression and Mental Disorders
- Depression is often viewed differently from other medical conditions
- People may associate victimhood with mental disorders
- This can lead to blaming the victim for their condition
- The brain is an organ with physiology, like other organs in the body
- Depression can be seen as a dysfunction of mood-regulating neurons in the brain
- This is similar to how type 1 diabetes is a dysfunction of insulin-regulating cells in the pancreas
- The goal is to challenge the idea of victimhood and responsibility in mental disorders
Diagnosing and Treating Mental Disorders
- Psychiatry currently lacks biomarkers and radiographic findings for diagnosis
- This makes diagnosing mental disorders more challenging than diagnosing physical conditions
- However, clinical decisions can still be made based on observation and experience
- When a person is clinically depressed, there is a clear dysfunction in their neural circuits that regulate mood
- There is potential for new therapies and treatments for mental disorders
- These could include alterations in diet, medicines, and electrical stimulation
Future Discussions
- Topics for future discussions include the immune system, epigenetics, cellular reprogramming, and the culture of antiscience
- These topics require more in-depth exploration and discussion
- Life-saving effect on procedures such as childbirth and surgery
- Microbes were imagined in the abstract before they were seen
Semmelweis and the Discovery of Microbes
- Junior obstetrician in Vienna
- Discovered that doctors were transmitting microbes
- Importance of listening to patients
Semmelweis and Germ Theory
- Semmelweis, a junior obstetrician in Vienna, noticed high maternal mortality rates in one ward compared to another
- Ward 1: run by doctors who performed autopsies and delivered babies without washing hands
- Ward 2: run by nurses who did not perform autopsies, had lower mortality rates
- Semmelweis hypothesized that doctors were transferring a “material substance” from dead bodies to the women they were examining
- Insisted doctors wash their hands with a diluted bleach solution, which led to a decrease in mortality rates
- Semmelweis essentially founded germ theory, although he did not have a microscope to confirm his findings
Evolutionary Drive for Multicellular Life
- Single-celled organisms are incredibly successful, living in a wide range of environments
- Multicellular organisms evolved from single-celled organisms multiple times independently
- Possible reasons for multicellularity:
- Predation: harder for predators to eat multicellular organisms
- Access to food and resources
- Multicellular organisms still make up a small portion of life compared to single-celled organisms
Ratcliff’s Experiment with Yeast
- William Ratcliff conducted an experiment to study the transition from single-celled to multicellular organisms
- Cultured yeast and collected sediment, allowing it to grow in multiple cycles
- After 30–40 cycles, yeast evolved into multicellular, snowflake-like forms
- These new multicellular yeast continued to propagate and developed specialized functions
- Ratcliff has conducted similar experiments with other organisms, such as algae
Evolution and Dinosaurs
- Dinosaurs were large multicellular organisms that existed millions of years ago
- It is unclear whether their size was an evolutionary advantage or a correction in the evolutionary process
- Factors such as volcanic eruptions and changes in food availability may have contributed to their extinction, allowing for the rise of other life forms
Jesse Gelsinger and Gene Therapy
- Jesse Gelsinger had a genetic disease related to the processing of ammonia in the body
- The idea was to create a virus containing the corrected version of the gene and infuse it into Jesse’s body
- The virus would infect his liver cells, insert the corrected gene, and reverse his disease
- However, Jesse’s immune system mounted a vigorous response against the virus, leading to his death
- The field of gene therapy was frozen for almost a decade as researchers tried to understand the cause and how to prevent it in others
Safer Approaches to Gene Therapy
- Safe harbors in the body: places where the immune system doesn’t easily reach
- Examples include the retina and testes
- New drugs can dampen the immune response, preventing a severe reaction to gene therapy
- Hiding the virus: researchers can engineer the virus to be less recognizable to the immune system, reducing the risk of a severe immune response
Gene Therapy and Immune Response
- Strategies to prevent hyperactive immune response:
- Use a novel virus that won’t raise a brisk immune response
- Give gene therapy in small doses (hyperfractionation)
- CAR T‑cells: a special example of gene therapy
- Extract T‑cells from a cancer patient
- Use gene therapy to weaponize T‑cells to attack cancer cells
- Reinject weaponized T‑cells into the patient
- Successful in blood cancers like lymphoma, leukemia, and myeloma
- Not as successful in solid tumors
Reducing the Cost of CAR T‑cell Therapy
- Reasons for high cost in the United States:
- High failure rate of drugs, pharmaceutical companies recoup R&D costs
- CAR T‑cells are intrinsically expensive to make
- Quality control and sterile environment required for production
- Cost reduction strategies in India:
- Cheaper virus production
- Reduced patent burden
- Changed machinery and cell harvesting methods
- Lower hospital treatment and therapy costs
Gene Therapy for Sickle Cell Anemia
- Three approaches to gene therapy for sickle cell anemia:
- Express the corrected version of the Betaglobin gene
- Use gene editing technology (e.g., CRISPR) to change the gene back to its normal form
- Reactivate fetal hemoglobin in adults to correct the hemoglobin defect
- All three approaches are in trials and have shown various measures of success
CRISPR and Genetic Revolution
- CRISPR allows for precise changes in the human genome
- Discovered by Jennifer Doudna, Emmanuelle Charpentier, Feng Zhang, George Church, and others
- Derived from a bacterial system evolved millions of years ago
- Can delete or change specific words in the “library” of the human genome
- Has the potential to revolutionize gene therapy and genetic editing
Gene Editing and Ethical Considerations
- CRISPR technology allows for precise gene editing
- Can change specific genes to their normal or wild type versions
- Can be done with embryonic cells, stem cells, bone marrow cells, and T cells
- Distinction between disease and desire
- Disease is linked to human suffering
- Desire is the aspiration to ameliorate suffering, even when there’s no suffering involved
- Controversial case of Chinese scientist He Jiankui
- Edited embryos to make them HIV-resistant, even though they had no risk of HIV infection
- Raised ethical concerns about informed consent and the necessity of the procedure
- Drawing the line between ethical and unethical gene editing
- Huntington’s disease: high penetrance, devastating effects, altering embryos could be seen as ethical
- APOE4 gene: risk factor for Alzheimer’s disease, but not as penetrant as Huntington’s, raises questions about where to draw the line
- Balancing the potential benefits of gene editing with ethical considerations and potential risks
Biomedical Community on Genetic Editing
- Genetic editing raises ethical questions on disease vs. desire
- Enhancing intelligence or physical traits falls under desire
- Mental health is a complex area for genetic editing
- Autism and schizophrenia have genetic components
- Simplifying these conditions could have unintended consequences
Genes and Mental Health
- Two types of genes related to mental health:
- Shove genes: strongly push towards a specific outcome (e.g., Marfan syndrome)
- Nudge genes: small influences that accumulate (e.g., height)
- Most mental illnesses are influenced by nudge genes
- Difficult to change hundreds or thousands of genes at once
Complexity of the Brain
- Two types of problems in science:
- Eye in the sandstorm: a paradigm shift is needed to understand a phenomenon
- Sand in the eye: a single fact doesn’t fit the current understanding
- Neuronal transmission is a sand in the eye problem
- Neurons have spaces between them called synapses
- Electrical conduction changes to chemical signals between neurons
- Allows for weighting and modulation of signals
- Analogous to neural networks in computing
Neural Networks and Learning
- Neural networks assign weights to different layers of communication
- Allows for discrimination between different inputs (e.g., dogs vs. cats)
- Brain’s electrical-chemical-electrical signal conversion allows for learning and processing
- If the brain were only electrical signals, it would be a “box of wires” without learning capabilities
- Understanding of this process is still developing in the field of science
Digital vs. Analog Processes in the Brain
- Digital: completely on or completely off, no modulation
- Analog: modulation of sound, crescendo and decrescendo, more complex and dynamic
- Evolution figured out the importance of modulation in the brain
- Music analogy: tempo, pace, loudness, softness, rhythm
- Produces a mature output of the score, the “music of the cell” and the brain
Learning in the Lab vs. Textbook Knowledge
- Textbook knowledge lays the groundwork and foundation, but has limitations
- Learning in the lab involves:
- Troubleshooting and problem-solving
- Recognizing failure and learning from it
- Gaining experience and knowledge from peers
- Practical application of knowledge in clinical trials and experiments
- Lab learning is essential for understanding the complexities of medicine and biology
Writing Process and Style
- Writing is a way to think and work through thoughts
- Use of analogies, metaphors, and various sources (history, mythology, philosophy, conversations, interviews) to create a unique and personal style
- Breaking down barriers between different genres of writing (memoir, case histories, deep history, journalistic writing)
- Goal is to show readers the author’s world and experiences, both the highs and lows
End of Life and Falls
- Connection between falls in older individuals and the end of life
- Author’s father and Virtuo both died as a result of falls and subsequent complications
- Falls are the leading cause of accidental death in older individuals
- Importance of considering and addressing this issue in medicine and healthcare
Mortality and Cellular Processes
- Mortality in older individuals can result from falls and broken bones
- Example: A person over 65 who falls and breaks their femur has a 10–30% mortality rate at 12 months
- Cellular processes play a role in these situations
- Osteoclasts, osteoblasts, and the matrix of the hip contribute to organ failure
- The body is a “citizenship” where different parts depend on each other
- Example: If the Department of Transportation shuts down, it can lead to a chain reaction of negative consequences
Depression and Mental Disorders
- Depression is often viewed differently from other medical conditions
- People may associate victimhood with mental disorders
- This can lead to blaming the victim for their condition
- The brain is an organ with physiology, like other organs in the body
- Depression can be seen as a dysfunction of mood-regulating neurons in the brain
- This is similar to how type 1 diabetes is a dysfunction of insulin-regulating cells in the pancreas
- The goal is to challenge the idea of victimhood and responsibility in mental disorders
Diagnosing and Treating Mental Disorders
- Psychiatry currently lacks biomarkers and radiographic findings for diagnosis
- This makes diagnosing mental disorders more challenging than diagnosing physical conditions
- However, clinical decisions can still be made based on observation and experience
- When a person is clinically depressed, there is a clear dysfunction in their neural circuits that regulate mood
- There is potential for new therapies and treatments for mental disorders
- These could include alterations in diet, medicines, and electrical stimulation
Future Discussions
- Topics for future discussions include the immune system, epigenetics, cellular reprogramming, and the culture of antiscience
- These topics require more in-depth exploration and discussion
Semmelweis and Germ Theory
- Ward 1: run by doctors who performed autopsies and delivered babies without washing hands
- Ward 2: run by nurses who did not perform autopsies, had lower mortality rates
- Insisted doctors wash their hands with a diluted bleach solution, which led to a decrease in mortality rates
- Semmelweis essentially founded germ theory, although he did not have a microscope to confirm his findings
- Possible reasons for multicellularity:
- Predation: harder for predators to eat multicellular organisms
- Access to food and resources
- Cultured yeast and collected sediment, allowing it to grow in multiple cycles
- After 30–40 cycles, yeast evolved into multicellular, snowflake-like forms
- These new multicellular yeast continued to propagate and developed specialized functions
- Ratcliff has conducted similar experiments with other organisms, such as algae
Jesse Gelsinger and Gene Therapy
- The virus would infect his liver cells, insert the corrected gene, and reverse his disease
- The field of gene therapy was frozen for almost a decade as researchers tried to understand the cause and how to prevent it in others
- Examples include the retina and testes
Gene Therapy and Immune Response
- Use a novel virus that won’t raise a brisk immune response
- Give gene therapy in small doses (hyperfractionation)
- Extract T‑cells from a cancer patient
- Use gene therapy to weaponize T‑cells to attack cancer cells
- Reinject weaponized T‑cells into the patient
- Successful in blood cancers like lymphoma, leukemia, and myeloma
- Not as successful in solid tumors
- High failure rate of drugs, pharmaceutical companies recoup R&D costs
- CAR T‑cells are intrinsically expensive to make
- Quality control and sterile environment required for production
- Cheaper virus production
- Reduced patent burden
- Changed machinery and cell harvesting methods
- Lower hospital treatment and therapy costs
- Express the corrected version of the Betaglobin gene
- Use gene editing technology (e.g., CRISPR) to change the gene back to its normal form
- Reactivate fetal hemoglobin in adults to correct the hemoglobin defect
- Discovered by Jennifer Doudna, Emmanuelle Charpentier, Feng Zhang, George Church, and others
- Derived from a bacterial system evolved millions of years ago
- Can delete or change specific words in the “library” of the human genome
- Has the potential to revolutionize gene therapy and genetic editing
Gene Editing and Ethical Considerations
- Can change specific genes to their normal or wild type versions
- Can be done with embryonic cells, stem cells, bone marrow cells, and T cells
- Disease is linked to human suffering
- Desire is the aspiration to ameliorate suffering, even when there’s no suffering involved
- Edited embryos to make them HIV-resistant, even though they had no risk of HIV infection
- Raised ethical concerns about informed consent and the necessity of the procedure
- Huntington’s disease: high penetrance, devastating effects, altering embryos could be seen as ethical
- APOE4 gene: risk factor for Alzheimer’s disease, but not as penetrant as Huntington’s, raises questions about where to draw the line
Biomedical Community on Genetic Editing
- Enhancing intelligence or physical traits falls under desire
- Autism and schizophrenia have genetic components
- Simplifying these conditions could have unintended consequences
- Shove genes: strongly push towards a specific outcome (e.g., Marfan syndrome)
- Nudge genes: small influences that accumulate (e.g., height)
- Difficult to change hundreds or thousands of genes at once
- Eye in the sandstorm: a paradigm shift is needed to understand a phenomenon
- Sand in the eye: a single fact doesn’t fit the current understanding
- Neurons have spaces between them called synapses
- Electrical conduction changes to chemical signals between neurons
- Allows for weighting and modulation of signals
- Analogous to neural networks in computing
- Allows for discrimination between different inputs (e.g., dogs vs. cats)
- If the brain were only electrical signals, it would be a “box of wires” without learning capabilities
Digital vs. Analog Processes in the Brain
- Music analogy: tempo, pace, loudness, softness, rhythm
- Produces a mature output of the score, the “music of the cell” and the brain
- Troubleshooting and problem-solving
- Recognizing failure and learning from it
- Gaining experience and knowledge from peers
- Practical application of knowledge in clinical trials and experiments
Mortality and Cellular Processes
- Example: A person over 65 who falls and breaks their femur has a 10–30% mortality rate at 12 months
- Osteoclasts, osteoblasts, and the matrix of the hip contribute to organ failure
- The body is a “citizenship” where different parts depend on each other
- Example: If the Department of Transportation shuts down, it can lead to a chain reaction of negative consequences
- People may associate victimhood with mental disorders
- This can lead to blaming the victim for their condition
- Depression can be seen as a dysfunction of mood-regulating neurons in the brain
- This is similar to how type 1 diabetes is a dysfunction of insulin-regulating cells in the pancreas
- This makes diagnosing mental disorders more challenging than diagnosing physical conditions
- When a person is clinically depressed, there is a clear dysfunction in their neural circuits that regulate mood
- These could include alterations in diet, medicines, and electrical stimulation
- These topics require more in-depth exploration and discussion
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