Dr. Ashley Mason on Sauna Use for Depression, Conquering Insomnia, and Mindfully Breaking Bad Habits
Dr. Ashley Mason, a clinical psychologist, directs the Sleep, Eating, and Affect Laboratory at UCSF’s Osher Center for Integrative Medicine. Her research explores sauna’s clinical utility for depression and focuses on non-pharmacological interventions for depression, insomnia, and overeating, offering alternative treatment avenues for these conditions.
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Dr. Ashley Mason and Whole Body Hyperthermia
- Dr. Ashley Mason: Director of the Sleep, Eating and Affect Laboratory at the Osher Center for Integrative Medicine at UCSF
- Specializes in nonpharmacological treatments for changing behavior, such as sleep, eating behavior disorders, and mood disorders
Whole Body Hyperthermia vs. Sauna
- Whole body hyperthermia: more intense than sauna, involves consistent heating for a longer period, head is outside the heating element
- Sauna: less intense, shorter sessions, whole body (including head) inside the heating element
Preliminary Findings on Whole Body Hyperthermia
- 2016 study by Janssen et al. tested whole body hyperthermia as a treatment for clinical depression
- Participants were either given whole body hyperthermia or a sham treatment
- Results showed significant drops in depression scores within a week, maintained six weeks later
- 2013 study by Hanusch et al. also showed positive effects of whole body hyperthermia on depression, but lacked a control group
Quick Effects and Lasting Results
- Whole body hyperthermia showed effects within a week, faster than SSRIs (antidepressants)
- One session of whole body hyperthermia had lasting effects for six weeks
Possible Mechanisms
- SSRIs and whole body hyperthermia both involve sweating (hyperhidrosis)
- Literature shows temperature dysregulation in people with depression
- Higher nighttime body temperatures, less efficient thermoregulatory cooling
- Successful treatments (e.g., ECT) often result in decreased core body temperature alongside decreased depression symptoms
- Hanusch study found a correlation between decreased body temperature and decreased depression after whole body hyperthermia treatment
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Sauna use may affect thermal regulation and body temperature, potentially impacting depression symptoms
Depression and Body Temperature Regulation - Clinical depression vs. situational depression
- Major depressive disorder: mental health disorder
- Correlation between body temperature dysregulation and depression in some studies
- Stress and thermoregulatory system
- Unclear data on whether stress can cause dysregulation of body temperature
- Plausible that prolonged distress could lead to depression symptoms
Inflammation and Depression
- Inflammatory response can induce depressive symptoms in healthy individuals
- Example: Injection of lipopolysaccharide (LPS) causes inflammation and depressive symptoms
- Prevention: High dose of EPA (marine omega‑3 fatty acid) can negate inflammation and depressive symptoms
- Sauna and inflammation
- Sauna use can affect inflammation and potentially improve depression
Sauna and Exercise
- Sauna use mimics moderate cardiovascular exercise
- Similar physiological responses: increased blood flow, sweating, elevated heart rate, blood pressure changes
- Studies show exercise can improve depressive symptoms in people with clinical depression
- Sauna use may help depression in a similar way to cardiovascular exercise
Whole Body Hyperthermia Studies
- Developing accessible and affordable whole body hyperthermia treatments for depression
- Goal: Create a treatment that can be used outside of hospitals and in various settings
- Experiment: Testing various saunas to find one that can raise core body temperature to 101.3°F (the temperature used in previous studies)
- Challenges: Most saunas cannot reach the desired temperature without causing discomfort or health risks
Sauna Studies for Depression and Cardiovascular Disease
- New study focusing on the effects of sauna on depression and cardiovascular disease
- Two parts:
- First study: 16 people, all receiving the same treatment
- Second study: 30 people, split into two groups receiving different treatments
- Delayed due to COVID-19
- Two parts:
- Investigating the molecular effects of sauna on depression
- Biomarkers and heat shock proteins play a role in adaptation to heat stress
- Potential benefits for both mental and physical health conditions
- Importance of developing protocols that people will actually follow
- Sauna is more accessible and easier to comply with than exercise for some individuals
- Applicable to those with disabilities or who are not physically active
- Could provide benefits for both depression and cardiovascular disease
Biomarkers in Depression Studies
- Measuring biomarkers in studies:
- BDNF (Brain-derived neurotrophic factor)
- Heat shock proteins
- Inflammatory cytokines
- CRP (C‑reactive protein)
- BDNF role in depression:
- Involved in neuroplasticity
- Exercise increases BDNF, potentially helping with neuroplasticity
- Depression may be inflammatory for some people
- Exercise is temporarily inflammatory but leads to adaptive, anti-inflammatory changes
Whole Body Hyperthermia and Cognitive Behavioral Therapy for Depression
- First study: 16 adults with major depressive disorder
- Participants receive whole body hyperthermia treatment and cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT) for depression
- Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT):
- Psychotherapy used for depression
- Gold standard, first-line treatment for depression without medications
- Focuses on the connection between thoughts, feelings, and behaviors
- Combining whole body hyperthermia with CBT:
- Idea comes from traditional communal sauna experiences
- Hyperthermia may make people more willing to engage in therapy
- Second study: 30 people, half receive CBT only, half receive CBT and whole body hyperthermia
- Aim to see if adding hyperthermia leads to larger decreases in depression
Future Research and Potential Applications
- Developing a booster method for maintaining wellness and reducing depression symptoms
- Home sauna tents as a supplement to more intense whole body heating
- Opening the door for more research on different types of sauna and heat therapy
- Finnish sauna, hot baths, jacuzzis
- Small clinical studies showing hot baths can improve depressive symptoms in people with depressive disorder
- 2017 study: hot baths improved symptoms at two weeks, but reduction faded by four weeks
- Many research questions still need to be answered in the field of heat therapy and depression
Non-pharmacologic Treatments for Chronic Insomnia
- Another area of expertise for the speaker
- Focus on helping treat people with chronic insomnia using non-pharmacologic treatments
Insomnia vs. Chronotypes
- Focus on helping treat people with chronic insomnia using non-pharmacologic treatments
- Chronotypes: genetic predisposition to being a night owl or morning person
- Roughly a third of people are morning people, a third are evening people, and a third are somewhere in the middle
- Society is built to favor morning people, causing difficulties for night owls
- Chronotypes are not necessarily sleep problems, but can pose health risks for night owls
- Insomnia: difficulty falling asleep, staying asleep, or waking up too early
- Must occur at least three nights a week for at least three months and be distressing
- Different from chronotypes, as it is a sleep problem
Causes of Insomnia
- Major changes in life can cause insomnia
- Retirement, changes in relationship status, losing a job, having a child, etc.
- Behaviors that maintain insomnia are often different from what caused it
- Bad sleep hygiene behaviors, such as using electronics in bed or napping during the day, can perpetuate insomnia
Treatment for Insomnia
- Cognitive Behavioral Therapy for Insomnia (CBT‑I) focuses on:
- Sleep hygiene
- Stimulus control: only using the bed for sleep or sex
- Sleep restriction: focusing on the amount of time spent in bed
- Cognitive techniques
- Relaxation techniques
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Recommended book: “Quiet Your Mind and Get to Sleep” by Dr. Rachel Manber
Dr. Panda on Sleep Consistency - Importance of not waking up at different times
- Artificial jet lag
- Patients go to bed when tired, wake up at the same time for 7 days
- Calculate average sleep time per night
Sleep Restriction and Cognitive Techniques
- Restrict time in bed to actual sleep time
- Improve sleep quality
- Extend sleep time by 15 minutes per week, maintaining 85% efficiency
- Cognitive techniques
- Work with worries and thoughts
- Identify dysfunctional thoughts
- Black and white thinking
- Personalization
- “Should” thoughts
- Thought record exercise
- Look at evidence for and against a thought
- Develop a new, more realistic thought
Sleep Treatment Components
- Sleep hygiene
- Stimulus control
- Sleep restriction
- Cognitive techniques
- Relaxation techniques
- Progressive muscle relaxation
Important Components for Good Outcomes
- Sleep restriction
- Stimulus control
Pharmacological Treatment for Insomnia
- Ambien: common drug for insomnia
- Can lead to dependence
- Side effects: sleep eating, memory issues, potential association with dementia
Cognitive Behavioral Therapy for Insomnia (CBTi)
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CBTi is a non-pharmacological treatment for insomnia
- Helps people taper off sleep medications
- Involves working with providers and creating a taper plan
- Can take up to six months or longer to get off drugs
- Standardizes medication use and addresses underlying issues causing insomnia
- Can be done through books, apps, or finding providers through websites like the Academy of Behavioral Sleep Medicine
- Treatment can last for a long time, with some people maintaining it for the rest of their lives
Overeating and Reward-Based Behavior
- Overeating can be due to stress, cravings, or other reward-based behaviors
- It can be difficult for people to stop overeating or consuming unhealthy foods and beverages
- The first step to change is determining if someone wants to change their behavior
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Understanding the underlying reasons for overeating can help in developing strategies to address the issue
Changing Unhealthy Behaviors with Mindfulness -
People struggle to change unhealthy behaviors even when they know the consequences
- Example: eating donuts when feeling down
- Provides temporary relief from negative feelings
- Over time, this behavior can lead to weight gain and other health issues
- Mindfulness can help change these behaviors
- Slowing down and paying attention to the experience
- Realizing the reward may not be as satisfying as initially thought
Mindfulness in Action
- Example: smoking cessation
- Patient asked to focus solely on smoking, without any distractions
- Patient realized they didn’t need to smoke as much as they thought
- Mindfulness can help people become disenchanted with unhealthy behaviors
- Slowing down and really tasting the food or experiencing the behavior
- Realizing the reward is not as great as initially thought
Changing the Reward Perception
- Focusing on the actual reward can help change the perception of it
- Realizing there may be a better approach to dealing with negative feelings
- Mindful eating intervention study
- Overweight women learned to be curious and open to observing their experiences
- Resulted in eating in response to cravings less often
Impact on the Brain
- Mindfulness can change brain activation patterns
- Serious meditators show different brain activation during meditation
- Changing perceived reward value can alter brain patterns
- Banning sugary beverages and providing motivational intervention
- Resulted in reduced soda consumption over time
Mindfulness and Harm Reduction
- Resulted in reduced soda consumption over time
- Mindfulness can help reduce harmful behavior
- Slowing down and paying attention to the experience
- Consuming less of harmful substances or activities
- Can be applied to various addictive behaviors
- Eating junk food, smoking, gambling, internet addiction
- Techniques to help reduce harmful behaviors
- Being mindful during the behavior
- Changing the reward by being mindful of it
- Checking in with your body and emotions
- Challenges with mindfulness
- Pausing and slowing down isn’t naturally rewarding
- Mindfulness may not be the whole answer
- Other ways to work with harmful behaviors
- Environmental interventions (e.g., not having junk food at home)
- Planning ahead (e.g., looking at menus before going to a restaurant)
- Episodic future thinking (imagining future health goals or events)
- Reward-based learning and positive/negative reinforcement
- Powerful in shaping behaviors
- Mindfulness can help break the cycle by focusing on the experience
Dr. Ashley Mason’s Contact Information
- Twitter: @DrAshleyMason
- Lab website: sealab.ucsf.edu (Sleep, Eating, and Affect Lab)
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